{"id":6036,"date":"2011-07-08T16:42:00","date_gmt":"2011-07-08T16:42:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.lospoliticosveracruz.com.mx\/?p=6036"},"modified":"2014-10-09T03:41:18","modified_gmt":"2014-10-09T03:41:18","slug":"dialogo-y-tolerancia-la-mejor-formula","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lospoliticosveracruz.com\/?p=6036","title":{"rendered":"Di\u00e1logo y tolerancia: la mejor f\u00f3rmula"},"content":{"rendered":"

Jorge Arturo Rodr\u00edguez<\/span>
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Tierra de Babel<\/span><\/p>\n

En los \u00faltimos a\u00f1os de su vida, mi abuelo sol\u00eda sostener un soliloquio permanente y con nadie hablaba, salvo con su nuera (mi madre) y conmigo. Recuerdo que cuando me le acercaba, \u00e9l dejaba a un lado su soliloquio, y nos pas\u00e1bamos horas conversando, platicando de esto y de lo otro, para finalmente despedirnos con un \u201cNos vemos ma\u00f1ana\u201d. Era reconfortante, saber de su vida y que supiera de la m\u00eda. As\u00ed, sin querer queriendo, nos entend\u00edamos y nos apoy\u00e1bamos en nuestros problemas, ansiedades, deseos e ilusiones, salvando la diferencia de edades y de vez en cuando tolerando nuestros desacuerdos y pensares.
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Bien dicen que hay que dialogar, porque algo se aprender\u00e1. Tambi\u00e9n dicen que el dialogo es el mejor arte en una sociedad, sin \u00e9l no existir\u00eda. Por supuesto, porque el mejor camino para solucionar problemas y arreglar errores es el di\u00e1logo. No veo como hemos llegado hasta el siglo XXI, si no es por el di\u00e1logo, aunque en muchas ocasiones no haya sido as\u00ed. Di\u00e1logo y tolerancia: la mejor f\u00f3rmula para el desarrollo de la Humanidad, pero qu\u00e9 tristeza, coraje e impotencia causa que eso muchas veces no se d\u00e9.
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En su articulo \u201cDi\u00e1logo y crisis: Notas para una reflexi\u00f3n\u201d, Juan Carlos Herrera sostiene que \u201cconcebimos al Di\u00e1logo como un proceso de generaci\u00f3n de sentido y de construcci\u00f3n de significados comunes entre actores individuales y colectivos. David Bohm define al Di\u00e1logo como \u00abuna corriente de significado que fluye entre, dentro y a trav\u00e9s de los [actores] implicados\u2026 y este significado compartido es el aglutinante, el cemento que sostiene los v\u00ednculos entre las personas y las sociedades.\u00bb El di\u00e1logo, dice tambi\u00e9n: \u00abproviene de la palabra di\u00e1logos cuyo prefijo , no significa dos sino \u00ab.El Di\u00e1logo, entonces, es el resultado de un proceso de cooperaci\u00f3n y de trabajo conjunto para construir un significado com\u00fan a los interlocutores\u201d.
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\tJuan Carlos Herrera ahonda: \u201cEl Di\u00e1logo no es un ejercicio contemplativo sino generativo; en consecuencia, existe di\u00e1logo cuando ese significado compartido logra transformar el pensamiento colectivo. (\u2026). En consecuencia, nuestro objetivo no es dialogar en el sentido de intercambio de informaci\u00f3n, sino transformar a trav\u00e9s del di\u00e1logo; es decir, de la construcci\u00f3n de nuevos significados que integren expectativas diferentes y aun contradictorias. Tal es el desaf\u00edo que aparece en la superficie del proceso del di\u00e1logo en nuestra sociedad\u201d.
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Por eso celebro el di\u00e1logo sostenido entre el Movimiento por la Paz con Justicia y Dignidad, encabezado por Javier Sicilia y el presidente Felipe Calder\u00f3n. Ojal\u00e1 no se convierta con el tiempo en un soliloquio de dos o di\u00e1logo de sordos. O que el gobierno tome la actitud de \u201cNi los veo ni los oigo\u201d. Ser\u00eda atroz, m\u00e1s de lo que ya es.<\/p>\n

De cinismo y anexas<\/p>\n

Hablando de di\u00e1logo, ah\u00ed les dejo esta: \u201cLlega un tipo bien borracho a las 3:00 de la madrugada a su casa, mete la llave despacio sin hacer ruido para no despertar a su mujer; pero la mujer lo estaba esperando y cuando el beodo abre la puerta, la esposa enciende la luz. El borrach\u00edn al verse descubierto le dice:
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\u00ab\u00bfQu\u00e9?\u00bb
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\u00ab\u00bfQu\u00e9 de qu\u00e9?\u00bb, le replica la esposa.
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\u00ab\u00bfQu\u00e9 de qu\u00e9 o qu\u00e9?\u00bb
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\u00ab\u00bfQu\u00e9 de qu\u00e9 o qu\u00e9 de qu\u00e9?\u00bb
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\u00ab\u00bfQu\u00e9 de qu\u00e9 o qu\u00e9 de qu\u00e9 o qu\u00e9?\u00bb
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\u00ab\u00bfQu\u00e9 de qu\u00e9 o qu\u00e9 de qu\u00e9 o qu\u00e9 por qu\u00e9?\u00bb
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\u00ab\u00bfQu\u00e9 de qu\u00e9 o qu\u00e9 de qu\u00e9 o qu\u00e9 por qu\u00e9, qu\u00e9?\u00bb
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\u00ab\u00bfD\u00f3nde andabas?\u00bb
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\u00ab\u00a1No, no, no me cambies la conversaci\u00f3n!\u00bb<\/p>\n

Hasta la pr\u00f3xima
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jarl63@yahoo.com.mx<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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Recuerdo que cuando me le acercaba, \u00e9l dejaba a un lado su soliloquio, y nos pas\u00e1bamos horas conversando, platicando de esto y de […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"tdm_status":"","tdm_grid_status":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-6036","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","category-sin-categoria"],"yoast_head":"\nDi\u00e1logo y tolerancia: la mejor f\u00f3rmula - Los pol\u00edticos Veracruz<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/lospoliticosveracruz.com\/?p=6036\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"es_ES\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Di\u00e1logo y tolerancia: la mejor f\u00f3rmula - Los pol\u00edticos Veracruz\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Jorge Arturo Rodr\u00edguez Tierra de Babel En los \u00faltimos a\u00f1os de su vida, mi abuelo sol\u00eda sostener un soliloquio permanente y con nadie hablaba, salvo con su nuera (mi madre) y conmigo. 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